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Poster: Harry Wilson Date: Oct 11, 2016 5:02pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Guide to missing 'Suspense' programs


Hello, Greybelt; thank you for your great work on a great series. Thank you also for the links to American Radio Theatre, doing a fine job of 'filling in the blanks'.

I'm not trying to be a dick or a grammar nazi, but since you're a stickler for accuracy, I wanted to point out one typo. On page 11 under '12/19/47 Wet Saturday', you mention that the later performance starred Dennis Huey; it's actually Dennis Hoey, famous as 'Inspector Lestrade' in Basil Rathbone's Sherlock Holmes movies.

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Since you seem quite knowledgeable about the history of Suspense, I'd like to ask two questions, for a little side project that I'm working on. First, can you tell me when Suspense would have gone from a live performance to a transcribed one? I'm particularly interested in two shows, 'The Man Who Thought He Was Edward G Robinson' from October 17, 1946, and 'Too Hot To Live', from October 26, 1950.

Also, in 'Too Hot To Live', there is an amazing sequence beginning at 10:25 and lasting for about two minutes, featuring overlapping dialogue, monologue, sound effects and music. Would this sequence have been done completely live, or would the elements have been individually transcribed and assembled? If live, then Suspense is even more amazing than I gave it credit for (and it is one of my top five shows).

Thank you again for your work, and for any assistance you can offer.

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Poster: Greybelt Date: Nov 24, 2016 4:11pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Guide to missing 'Suspense' programs

It's 11/24 and I did not see your response to my prior post -- I just posted an updated document -- the next update will have the "Hoey" correction -- great catch!! Thanks very much.

I'm pretty certain that the 10/17/46 "EGR" would have been done live. "Too Hot to Live" was likely live but I suspect it was enhanced with prerecorded effects. However -- it was at this time when CBS was doing a lot of pre-recording and editing things together for shows like Johnny Dollar. My gut tells me that Suspense stayed live through 1950 -- but I will investigate and see what I can find.

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Poster: Harry Wilson Date: Dec 1, 2016 5:15pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Guide to missing 'Suspense' programs


Hello, Greybelt; thanks for your response. I'm a little late replying too; I moved in November, and just got my internet back up.

Regardless of the method, I think that the sequence in 'Too Hot To Live' is mesmerizing, one of the best in radio.

The reason that I ask is that I'm hoping to write little blurbs about different shows, geared toward newcomers to OTR, providing context and backstory where I can. Some will end up in the Archive's OTR collection, if it's an episode that wasn't already here, or an episode for which I have new information. (My upload of The Gambler And His Lady is neither, and probably should have been left in Community Audio, or Radio Programs at best. Likewise the Christmas and New Year episodes that I plan to upload soon; I'll put them in OTR and see if anyone complains.)

Your info will help with my pages for the two shows in question; I can write the blurbs with a bit more confidence now. Again, thank you!

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Poster: Greybelt Date: Dec 2, 2016 1:43am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Guide to missing 'Suspense' programs

Since Martin Grams' book on Suspense is out of print, your work will be very helpful. Martin says he will not be reprinting it. There is another author at work on a massive Suspense directory but that still might be years away.

There are brief descriptions about Suspense episodes that might aid in your work at
RadioGoldindex http://radiogoldindex.com/cgi-local/p2.cgi?ProgramName=Suspense
But most are "teaser" descriptions. They have been adding descriptions of Suspense TV shows to their list

Critiques/reviews of Suspense episodes are at
Escape and Suspense http://www.escape-suspense.com/ (Christine Miller does intend to keep the site up and resume posting in the future but there have not been new posts in a while. She would always hunt down the original stories if they were adaptations and really did a nice job of it.

Old Time Radio Review
http://www.oldtimeradioreview.com/suspense.html
They seem to add reviews irregularly but are still maintaining the site. The latest reviews can be seen at
http://www.oldtimeradioreview.com/updates.html

OTR Plot Spot has 200+ listings with comments on many of the shows and some interesting references to other series and the original works
http://www.otrplotspot.com/suspense.html

The Awake at Midnight site has very brief comments but rates on an A-F scale
http://www.awakeatmidnight.com/suspense/

Hope these can help the cause!

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Poster: Harry Wilson Date: Dec 2, 2016 6:27pm
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Guide to missing 'Suspense' programs


Hello again; thank you for the links. I already knew about RadioGOLDINdex and Escape and Suspense, but the others are new to me. It's good to hear that Escape and Suspense is still live; I was worried that the site was not being maintained and might soon disappear (although I've actually stopped reading it, out of fear of subconsciously plagiarizing them).

I hope I didn't give the impression that I'm an expert researcher; I'm not an expert on OTR (or much else), I'm just a fan. I have enjoyed hunting down the backstories and other information on some episodes, however, particularly the Dragnet episode 'The Big Thank You' (yes, the story is true) and some Bob & Ray episodes in the BARFTTD collection.

My original reason for writing these blurbs, for a website that never got off the ground, was for those times when I tried to interest folks in OTR but had trouble articulating my reasons for enjoying it. In that case, I could just point them to the website; like Laurie Anderson says, "If you can't talk about it, point to it." Now I write my articles with an imaginary twenty-year-old in mind, and try to provide what info they would need to fully enjoy the shows.

I have been fortunate in that many people have visited my pages on The Archive, and I hope some of them have benefited from my context and glossaries. What I can't figure out is why the most popular page is the two very weak (in my opinion) Frank Graham episodes of Jeff Regan. While it's true that these weren't on The Archive before, neither was 'The Prodigal Daughter', a much stronger episode of the series.

Again, thank you for your help, and I'll try to upload some Suspense pages soon. In the meantime, if you're feeling Christmassy, check out my next forum post.

P.S. Why isn't your book on Suspense coming out? Think about it.

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Poster: BNRToast Date: Nov 25, 2016 3:33am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Missing 'Suspense' programs still trying to hide

Thanks to both of you for your work. Unfortunately the first link above goes to a now deleted document.

Just in case its missed, the new document is at
https://www.scribd.com/document/332211012/Missing-Suspense-Episodes-updated-11-24-2016

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Poster: Greybelt Date: Nov 25, 2016 3:40am
Forum: oldtimeradio Subject: Re: Missing 'Suspense' programs still trying to hide

I ended up deleting the first document. Scribd was misbehaving yesterday and would not replace the document properly, so I had to create a new post. On Facebook, the link to Scribd keeps displaying the wrong document image. Grrrrrrrr!